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Comment by Lee Burge on February 14, 2013 at 5:28am
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Nicolas,
Even if I had the time, there isn't an active group nearby. I live in a small town in the north of OK, and the nearest group is almost an hour away. For now, however, I'm content to go it "alone", as my "real" life still hasn't let up...
Vale,
Lee Burge
23, Feb. 2013
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Comment by Nicolas L'Anguille on February 14, 2013 at 5:11am -
I understand. I have been slowly coming back to the SCA after a long hiatus, and have given myself a very tight focus. It has been a great deal of help in keeping it interesting, and in keeping myself focused. I have met some great and helpful people on this site, and on the germanrencostuming group on yahoo.
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Nicolas,
I'm sorry, but I didn't answer your question. No, I'm not a member of the SCA, though I was about 10 or so years ago. Unfortunately, real life reared its ugly head, and I had no more time. I have since done my research and reconstructions for myself and a limited amount of faires and whatnot. I plan to make a trip to Europe some time soon (the next few years) as I have been invited by some friends in Eurpoe to come and participate in some of their events, but I'm a ways off from being ready for that. The SCA is a great place to start, I feel, but there is something to be said for a narrower focus and more stringent standards of reenactment. Some, in the SCA, do it well, and some do not. It all depends on what you want to get out of playing. I always enjoyed the events I went to, but, as I said above, I simply no longer have as much time as I did in times gone by.
Vale,
Lee Burge
13, Feb. 2013
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Nicolas,
Thanks very much. I'm on my way to (hopefully) correcting the mistakes I made in the rest of the kit, and bring it up to the level of the hat!
Yes, for us, here on the western side of the pond, research sources are hard to come by for time periods and locales before colonization, and the internet isn't always helpful. Unfortunately, anyone can put something up on a site or in a blog or forum, regardless of how sound their research (and their conclusions) may or may not be. Sifting through all the possibilities of net's vast offerings is a skill to be learned in and of itself. This doesn't even include the language barrier that you mentioned. I feel your pain. I've managed to cultivate a few actual online dialogs with individuals from various reputable Living History sources/groups, mostly in Europe, and these people have been very generous with their time and helpful with their knowledge. In the end though, the know how is only as good as how you use it.
Vale,
Lee Burge
13, Feb. 2013
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Comment by Nicolas L'Anguille on February 13, 2013 at 5:40pm
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This hat is fantastic. I've also enjoyed reading your commentary below. I have the Medieval Tailor's Assistant, and the Company of St. George Male Costume Guide. Both are quite helpful. I also use The Tudor Tailor, and The King's Servants (a Tudor Tailor publication) to get patterning and fitting ideas for my landsknecht stuff. It is very difficult to find Landsknecht information in English, so I started looking for other sources which could be modified into the correct sillhouette.
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Soren,
You're quite welcome. About the book, there was one thing I forgot to mention. I've noticed the photos of the finished garments are a little strange looking. The advice and techniques in the book are good, but the execution of the examples seem a tad illfitting. This, I'm sure, can be overcome with refinements made as you go along...doing additional research, making your mock-ups, fitting and refitting, etc, etc. One thing that their images seem to lack is the proper silhouette. Every time period has its own silhouette, even if it's just an ideal to which most people never rise. Period artwork is the key to getting the shape right, and, although art at any time is sometimes exaggerated, it stiil bears useful clues.
On that note, another useful resource is the Company of St. George's 2010 Updated Male Costume Guide. Although they're a Swiss based company representing a 15th Burgundian artillery company, they have some very helpful ideas and techniques that could be applied to many medieval and renaissance clothing projects. The Guide is a downloadable PDF file. Here is the web location:
http://www.companie-of-st-george.ch/cms/?q=en/Clothing_Guide_Download
I hope all this is of use, and I look forward to seeing your reconstruction.
Vale,
Lee Burge
12, Feb. 2013
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Comment by Søren Strandby on February 12, 2013 at 11:55pm -
Thank you, Lee. You've been most helpful!
I've had similar experiences with the Reconstructing History patterns. They can be very vague, but provide a useful starting point for anyone's first attempt at a landsknecht garb. I shall have to look into acquiring The Medieval Tailor's Assistant, as well as some thicker wool for my own hat.
Thanks again!
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Hello Soren,
The red wool inside the loops of the brim is actually a lighter, garment weight wool, the same as I used for the contrasting red color on the doublet and breaches. I simply cut a long, somewhat narrow rectangle of the red wool, twisted it, and stuffed into the loops of the brim. The surface texture of the two wools keeps it in place. I don't know if such a thing is correct to the period or not, but I thought it looked nice and was, at least to my mind, plausible.
The pattern I started with was one from Reconstructing History. I made a few minor modifications, based on period artwork, and the size of my head. I've learned to be careful with the patterns from Reconstructing History. They're very generic, and they lack some subtlety in terms of the shaping of individual pattern pieces. Their instructions are a bit lacking in detail, but, other than that, they work pretty well. I consider their patterns as a starting point only, with more research and modification added to them to get the whole picture. A good book to have handy is The Medieval Tailor's Assistant. There aren't any landsknecht patterns, but the techniques described in the book are worth the reading and applicable to any time.
Vale,
Lee Burge
12, Feb. 2013
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Comment by Søren Strandby on February 12, 2013 at 2:14pm
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Interesting! Is both the red and the black wool is of that same quality? Also, dare I ask which pattern you used?
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Hello Soren,
Thank you! I do believe that the wool I used was woven, but it was a very heavy coat weight wool, which had been fulled. It was a very tight weave, as well, so it simply hasn't unravelled, as of yet. In fact, it may have been melton weight wool.
Of all the pieces of that kit, the hat was the easiest. I didn't even make a mock upof it in cheap cloth first. I simply took the actuall paper pattern, folded it up with paper clips (just to see how it would go), then cut the wool and stitched away. It came out correctly on the first try. I hope this helps, and be sure to post your hat when you get it done.
Vale,
Lee Burge
12, Feb. 2013
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